The Summer That Was... - The Camp Owners Podcast #7


Eric Shendelman and Andy Lillienthal join Howie and Kelly to begin to unpack what was likely the hardest season in a Camp Owner’s career.

The Camp Owner’s Pod is BACK!

We’re thrilled to bring you a full season of podcasts from now until June 2021! Stay tuned to our podcast feed to hear new episodes dropping every two weeks.

It’s fair to say that it’s been a bit of a rough 3 months since we last dropped an episode. So even though we’re excited to move on and get to some different episodes, we can’t not talk about what happened this past summer.

To help unpack this blur of a summer, Howie and Kelly are joined by Eric Shendelman from Crestwood Valley Day Camp & Shendy’s Swim School in Ontario and Andy Lillienthal from Camp Winnebago in Maine.

All 4 of our hosts had very different summers, so get excited for this episode to really cover some broad ground!

Tune-in to hear about:

  • How did you navigate:

    • Camp Logistics

    • Customer

    • Service Staff Training

  • In what ways were you challenged like never before?

  • What changes did you make that will carry forward to future seasons regardless of the presence of COVID?


Thanks for listening!

If you have a suggestion or guest for a for a show, please email our producer, Matt at matt@gocamp.pro.


What Inspires You?

Things that inspire our hosts and guests to be the best Camp Owners they can be.

Howie: Article: “Your Surge Capacity is Depleted, That’s Why You Feel Awful”

Kelly: Book: Yung Pueblo “Inward”

Andy: Poem: “How Many and How Much” by Shel Silverstein

Eric: Camp community at large, the coming together of leaders in both Canada and US


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What is the Camp Owners Podcast?

Whether you are a Camp Owner, an aspiring camp owner, or a lover of some of our other Go Camp Pro podcasts, we’re so happy to have you here.

The Camp Owners Podcast is here to explore a side of the summer camp world that is experienced by those that have the privilege of running an independent program.

In this world of camp, the stakes are high. Not only do private camps have the same goals, aspirations and responsibilities that other camps have, but there is also usually a ton of personal livelihood on the line. When you OWN a camp, you really do own the successes and failures that any for-profit enterprise faces.

On this podcast, our hosts, Howie Grossinger and Kelly Schuna will be joined by some seasoned prime camp professionals to dive deep into the issues that most private camp pros will need to face, and the best practices that they use to create, and sustain a summer camp for their campers to enjoy summer after summer.

In season one, tune in to the podcast monthly to hear about topics like Camp As a Business, Camp Insurance, Buying and Selling Camps, Work/Life Balance, Pricing, Staff Training & Engagement

Thanks for tuning in! If you have any feedback, please get in touch with our producer, Matt at matt@gocamp.pro.

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